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Date: 2021-03-24

Time:

1730- 1900 UTC

1030-1200 PDT

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Jim Case is inviting you to a scheduled SNOMED International Zoom meeting.

Topic: SNOMED Editorial Advisory Group Conference Call
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Meeting minutes:

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Objectives

  • Obtain consensus on agenda items

Discussion items

ItemDescriptionOwnerNotesAction
1Call to order and role call

Start recording!


2

Conflicts of interest and agenda review


No conflicts noted



3Briefing note regarding conditions caused by substance or product

EAG - Product role - Briefing note March 2021.pdf

EAG agreed that the move of product roles out of the substance hierarchy was appropriate, but that the impact of the move on the expectation of users for the hierarchical relationship between drug classes and individual substances needs to be mitigated.  SNOMED will begin internal disucssions on next steps related to the roll out of the inactivation of product roles from the substance hierarchy.

  • Toni Morrison Farzaneh Ashrafi SNOMED will develop a more detailed plan on the changes and potential impact mitigation of movement of product roles
4Concept inactivation workgroup status report Paul Amos

Inactivation proposed amendments v0.5

Summary of proposed changes and discussion of a couple of inactivation reason implementations.

Link to Confluence page for feedback on Ambiguous Concept inactivation options: Concept Inactivation Proposed Amendments

There are also a set of examples on the confluence page: Inactivation Scenarios 20210306.pdf

Discussion:

Still some uncertainty about the ability to consistenly use the "Ambiguous" inactivation reason and whether a more complicated process is worth the effort.

The proposed "DONATED TO" historical relationship was deemed of little use by many members of the EAG.  It was determined that an annotation used in conjunction with the MOVED_TO inactivation reason would suffice.

The CIWG will present an updated proposal at the April Business meeting of the EAG


5Glascow coma score and assessment scale components

Based on a discussion at the Anesthesia CRG and Observables Project there is a requirement to add more content for Glasgow Coma Scale

Please see full discussion here: https://confluence.ihtsdotools.org/display/ACRGT/Glasgow+Coma+Score

Presentation included with this agenda item suggesting common observables definitions.

References to Standarization of the GCS:

https://zibs.nl/wiki/GlasgowComaScale-v3.2(2020EN)

https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/archetypes/1013.1.137/printable

https://www.glasgowcomascale.org/

Draft document from Anesthesia CRG: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lZJlarREeIIRPk5E1zVtZUktLQlPH3G5/view?usp=sharing

Discussions within Observables Project Group and and review of assessment scores deployed at Nebraska have proceeded with extended proposal for inclusion of assessment scales in use in Sweden as well as US.   

Modelling proposal added to Attachment s summarizing Assessment Scale Score Observables development: Clinical Scale Scores_20210224.pptx.  Proposal promotes expanding content model for full definition of scales such as co-morbidity, Glasgow Coma Scale and SOFA scores.

Anesthesia CRG wishes to explore further the best model for including definitions/explanations of Ordinal Scale score Value sets used in calculated scores.

Discussion:

Rescheduled for the April business meeting

  • James R. Campbell and Andrew Norton to provide example of observables for assessment scales
  • EAG to review document for examples of findings that clinicians would like to see
6ECE TopicsBruce Goldberg
  • Updated model for contact dermatitis

Discussion: 

Bruce Goldberg proposed more time to work out his proposal.  Continued to the April business meeting

Decision:

7Evaluation to Observables (E2O project) update

Daniel Karlsson@James Campbell

  • Proposal for transfer of concepts from <<Evaluation Procedures to Observable entities under going model development in Protege for Phase 1 (Lab testing procedures) in order to test hierarchy build and revisions.

Rescheduled for the April Business meeting


9Next meetingEAG

Business meeting - April 20, 2021: 0900-1200 PDT