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Date: 2021-08-25

Time:

1730- 1900 UTC

1030-1200 PDT

Zoom Meeting Details

Topic: SNOMED Editorial Advisory Group Conference Call

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Document

Meeting minutes:

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Objectives

  • Obtain consensus on agenda items

Discussion items

Item
Description
Owner
Notes
Action
1Call to order and role call

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2

Conflicts of interest and agenda review

No conflicts noted


5Concept inactivation workgroup update

Inactivation of Ambiguous Concepts - review of comments and problematic examples

From Jim Case  Ambiguous concepts identified by member

208493001 |Open fracture finger distal phalanx, multiple (disorder)|

208488004 |Open fracture finger middle phalanx, multiple (disorder)|

208482003 |Open fracture finger proximal phalanx, multiple (disorder)|

These are confusing concepts and it is unclear from the current wording what is intended.  As one would expect, these are most likely derived from ICD-9 (e.g. 816.13 Open fracture of multiple sites of phalanx or phalanges of hand), which is also open to interpretation.  In the recent remodeling of these concepts, the representation in some cases is that multiple phalanges or digits are involved, in other cases such as abrasions and open wounds, they are modeled as multiple morphologies on a single digit.

Given that the original source of these concepts was ambiguous as to whether one or more digits were involved, these concepts should be inactivated as ambiguous and replaced with concepts with more specific FSNs, i.e.

"Open fracture of distal phalanx of multiple fingers" and "Multiple open fractures of distal phalanx of finger".  The latter is an example of a concept that most likely would never occur, but would need to be created in order to conform to the requirements associated with AMBIGUOUS inactivation reason from the concept inactivation workgroup.  Thus it too would be inactive (Paul Amos, what would be the inactivation reason?)


Discussion:

Decision:






Maternal vs. fetal periods of life

See attached document for review:

Modeling issues related to maternal periods


Discussion:

Decision:


7ECE TopicsBruce Goldberg



8Complication remodelingJim Case

Issues have arisen with the remodeling of subtypes of 116223007 |Complication (disorder)|, based on earlier agreed decisions from EAG.

Proposal for revision of the “Complication” hierarchy

Based on agreed proposals, editorial guide will need to be updated.

Discussion:

Decision:


9AOBEAG

10Next meetingEAGNext conference call is scheduled for September 22, 2021