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Date: 2021-02-24

Time:

1830- 2000 UTC

1030-1200 PDT

Zoom Meeting Details

Hi there,

Jim Case is inviting you to a scheduled SNOMED International Zoom meeting.

Topic: SNOMED Editorial Advisory Group Conference Call
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Meeting Files:


Meeting minutes:

The call recording is located here.


Objectives

  • Obtain consensus on agenda items

Discussion items

ItemDescriptionOwnerNotesAction
1Call to order and role call

Start recording!


2

Conflicts of interest and agenda review


No conflicts noted




Concept Inactivation update and proposals


Glascow coma score and assessment scale components

Based on a discussion at the Anesthesia CRG there is a requirement to add more content to express Glasgow coma scores. 

Please see full discussion here: https://confluence.ihtsdotools.org/display/ACRGT/Glasgow+Coma+Score

References to Standarization of the GCS:

https://zibs.nl/wiki/GlasgowComaScale-v3.2(2020EN)

https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/archetypes/1013.1.137/printable

https://www.glasgowcomascale.org/


Draft document from Anesthesia CRG: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lZJlarREeIIRPk5E1zVtZUktLQlPH3G5/view?usp=sharing

Attachment added summarizing Assessment Scale Score Observables development with Observables Project and Deployment at Nebraska: Clinical Scale Scores_20210121.pptx


  • James R. Campbell and Andrew Norton to provide example of observables for assessment scales
  • EAG to review document for examples of findings that clinicians would like to see

ECE TopicsBruce Goldberg
  • Additional considerations for disorder association modeling
  • Updated model for contact dermatitis
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Modeling "without" conceptsYongsheng Gao

Options for modeling concepts containing the term "without" in the absence of negation in the DL profile.

Prior discussions suggested that these terms may have clinical utility and should be retained in spite of their limitations.  The CMAG has been asked to provide usage data to see if they are of actual use.  

Discussion:

Suggestions have been made to allow for additional DL properties by Alejandro Lopez Osornio or to create a new attribute by Yongsheng Gao.

What does without mean?  Is it truly logical negation?  There are two meanings, one is not A, but the other is A without B.

KCA: Support that “without” does not mean logical negation, it is rather an absence of a measurable/observable thing.




Evaluation to Observables (E2O project) update




Next meetingEAG

March 24, 2021













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