Date: 2021-02-24

Time:

1830- 2000 UTC

1030-1200 PDT

Zoom Meeting Details

Hi there,

Jim Case is inviting you to a scheduled SNOMED International Zoom meeting.

Topic: SNOMED EAG Conference Call
Time: Jan 27, 2021 10:30 AM Pacific Time (US and Canada)

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Attendees

Chair:

Jim Case

AG Members

Observers:

Apologies:

Meeting Files:

Meeting minutes:

The call recording is located here.

Objectives

Obtain consensus on agenda items

Discussion items

Item	Description	Owner	Notes	Action
1	Call to order and role call	Jim Case	Start recording!
2	Conflicts of interest and agenda review	Jim Case	No conflicts noted
	Concept Inactivation update and proposals	Paul Amos
	Glascow coma score and assessment scale components	Jim Case Andrew Norton James R. Campbell	Based on a discussion at the Anesthesia CRG there is a requirement to add more content to express Glasgow coma scores. Please see full discussion here: https://confluence.ihtsdotools.org/display/ACRGT/Glasgow+Coma+Score References to Standarization of the GCS: https://zibs.nl/wiki/GlasgowComaScale-v3.2(2020EN) https://ckm.openehr.org/ckm/archetypes/1013.1.137/printable https://www.glasgowcomascale.org/ Draft document from Anesthesia CRG: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lZJlarREeIIRPk5E1zVtZUktLQlPH3G5/view?usp=sharing Attachment added summarizing Assessment Scale Score Observables development with Observables Project and Deployment at Nebraska: Clinical Scale Scores_20210121.pptx	James R. Campbell and Andrew Norton to provide example of observables for assessment scales EAG to review document for examples of findings that clinicians would like to see

	Modeling "without" concepts	Yongsheng Gao	Options for modeling concepts containing the term "without" in the absence of negation in the DL profile. Prior discussions suggested that these terms may have clinical utility and should be retained in spite of their limitations. The CMAG has been asked to provide usage data to see if they are of actual use. Discussion: Suggestions have been made to allow for additional DL properties by Alejandro Lopez Osornio or to create a new attribute by Yongsheng Gao. What does without mean? Is it truly logical negation? There are two meanings, one is not A, but the other is A without B. KCA: Support that “without” does not mean logical negation, it is rather an absence of a measurable/observable thing.
	Evaluation to Observables (E2O project) update	James R. Campbell	Current status of project to coalesce evaluation procedures and Observable entities Attachment summarizing project added: Migration of Evaluation Procedures to Observables Inception-Elaboration.docx Discussion: Looking at common laboratory procedures. Around 7,000 measurement concepts are being looked at (those with "Measurement - action") . A template is being developed to allow for an automated or batch process to convert existing evaluation procedures to Observable entities.
	ECE Topics	Bruce Goldberg	Additional considerations for disorder association modeling Updated model for contact dermatitis
	Next meeting	EAG	March 24, 2021

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