Date and time
2022-04-25 20.00 UTC
Zoom Details
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Apologies
Objectives
Discuss and make progress on these issues:
- Impulsivity observable Piper Allyn Ranallo
- Process and quality model clarification
- Gender (assignment, identity) observables James R. Campbell
Discussion items
See below.
| Item | Description | Owner | Notes | Action |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Welcome & apologies | Remember recording! | ||
| 2 | Conflicts of interest | None stated! | ||
| 3 | Minutes from previous meeting | Daniel Karlsson | ||
| X | Impulsivity observable | |||
| 5 | Process vs. quality | See presentation. There is an issue with allowing the same meaning to be represented in two different ways, one as a quality characterized by a process, one as a process with some output. Particularly, when representing qualities such as presence it seems to be an undesirable feature of the model if different modeling applies if the presence is characterized by a process compared to if it is not. |
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| 6 | Gender and race observables | 2022-02-21: Presentation of Race and Gender assignment observables. Alejandro Lopez Osornio in latin america this typically is not recorded, with few exceptions. Nashar Karim patient-reported, self-assigned, where is that seen in the modeling? It is represented through Interview technique. Daniel Karlsson recording race is illegal in many european countries. 2022-04-25: Re-modelling of some existing concepts, including 184100006 | Patient sex (observable entity) |. See presentation attached. There still seem to be an (almost) agreement in the group that biological aspects of sex should be kept separate from sociological aspects of gender modeling-wise. | ||
| 7 | Next meeting | Next meeting is May 23 2022 20.00 UTC (I'm on vacation May 16) Agenda:
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Meeting Files
Recordings
Previous Meetings
| Title | Creator | Modified | |
|---|---|---|---|
| E2O meeting 20220825 | Daniel Karlsson | 2022-Aug-25 | |
| 2022-05-23 - OBSERVABLE Meeting | Daniel Karlsson | 2022-May-24 | |
| E2O meeting 20220504 | Daniel Karlsson | 2022-May-05 | |
| 2022-04-25 - OBSERVABLE Meeting | Daniel Karlsson | 2022-Apr-26 | |
| 2022-04-06 - OBSERVABLE Face-to-face Meeting | Daniel Karlsson | 2022-Apr-25 | |
| 2022-03-21 - OBSERVABLE Meeting | Daniel Karlsson | 2022-Mar-31 | |
| E2O 23rd meeting 20220223 | Daniel Karlsson | 2022-Feb-23 | |
| 2022-02-21 - OBSERVABLE Meeting | Daniel Karlsson | 2022-Feb-22 | |
| E2O 22st meeting 20220202 | Daniel Karlsson | 2022-Feb-02 | |
| 2022-01-24 - OBSERVABLE Meeting | Daniel Karlsson | 2022-Jan-24 | |
| 2021-12-20 - OBSERVABLE Meeting | Daniel Karlsson | 2021-Dec-20 | |
| 2021-11-15 - OBSERVABLE Meeting | Daniel Karlsson | 2021-Dec-16 |
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