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Date and time

2022-04-25 20.00 UTC

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ItemDescriptionOwnerNotesAction
1Welcome & apologies

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2Conflicts of interest

None stated!


3Minutes from previous meetingDaniel Karlsson

XImpulsivity observable

5Process vs. quality

See presentation.

There is an issue with allowing the same meaning to be represented in two different ways, one as a quality characterized by a process, one as a process with some output. Particularly, when representing qualities such as presence it seems to be an undesirable feature of the model if different modeling applies if the presence is characterized by a process compared to if it is not.

  • Daniel Karlssonwill provide more examples, including for the LOINC tech preview, for next call
6Gender and race observables

2022-02-21:

Presentation of Race and Gender assignment observables.

Alejandro Lopez Osornio in latin america this typically is not recorded, with few exceptions. 

Nashar Karim patient-reported, self-assigned, where is that seen in the modeling? It is represented through Interview technique.

Daniel Karlsson recording race is illegal in many european countries.

2022-04-25:

Re-modelling of some existing concepts, including 184100006 | Patient sex (observable entity) |. See presentation attached.

There still seem to be an (almost) agreement in the group that biological aspects of sex should be kept separate from sociological aspects of gender modeling-wise.


7Next meeting

Next meeting is May 23 2022 20.00 UTC (I'm on vacation May 16)

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Meeting Files

  File Modified
PDF File Johns MW Epworth Sleepiness Scale Validation_140611.pdf 2022-Apr-13 by Daniel Karlsson
Microsoft Powerpoint Presentation LAB INTEROPERATION DISCUSSION.pptx 2022-Apr-13 by Daniel Karlsson
Microsoft Powerpoint Presentation Observables_Assessment_scales.pptx 2022-Apr-13 by Daniel Karlsson
Microsoft Excel Spreadsheet SDoH Data Inventory.xlsx 2022-Apr-13 by Daniel Karlsson
Microsoft Powerpoint Presentation Social Determinants of Health_Observable Semantics.pptx 2022-Apr-25 by James R. Campbell
PDF File STOP_BANG screening tools.pdf 2022-Apr-13 by Daniel Karlsson

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