Observable and Investigation Model Project

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Date

2018-06-18 20.00 UTC

Zoom Details

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Attendees

Apologies


Objectives

  1. Discuss representation of diagnostic products (to be used as values for susceptibility observables)
  2. Discuss Free(Unbound) and Total substances, remaining questions

Discussion items


ItemDescriptionOwnerNotesAction 
1Welcome & apologies
Daniel Karlsson


 

 
2Conflicts of interest
Daniel Karlsson
  • None stated
  
3Previous minutes

Daniel Karlsson




4Free and Total Substances

Daniel Karlsson

Toni Morrison

Yongsheng Gao

Farzaneh Ashrafi

  • The current plan is to represent the base substance, the bound and the free substance as three siblings with a "substance X and derivatives" common subsumer.
  • This would support the Observables use cases of allowing querying for substances without regard for "bound-ness", and to distinguish between bound, free, and total.
  • Three patterns for Observables would be:
    • Free X Observable === Observable & component = Free X
    • Bound X Observable === Observable & component = Bound X (or X bound to Y)
    • Total X Observable === Observable & component X (base substance concept)

5Susceptibility

Suzanne Santamaria

Farzaneh Ashrafi

  • Mapping of LOINC component for Susceptibility LOINC terms

  • There will likely be a new "diagnostic product" hierarchy parallel to the medicinal product hierarchy, reusing attributes and patterns from that hierarchy. The priority of this work is currently unknown
    • The new category would need modeling guidance (cf. Clinical Drug (CD) Concept - Pattern 1a, permission needed!). Some of the items that should be considered are as follows (from Farzaneh and Toni):

    • Do we need a new semantic tag?

    • Can the concepts be modelled with a single pattern/template or are there multiple patterns/templates needed?

    • Can we reuse of some of attributes in medicinal product and CDs? Do we need to create new ones?

    • Does the hierarchy require groupers?

    • Do any concepts have strength ranges?

    • If a concept specifies more than one substance, does each substance have an associated strength?

    • See this page for discussion: Diagnostic products

    • Draft editorial guidelines: Editorial Guidelines for Diagnostic Products Used for Susceptibility Testing

  • Daniel Karlsson to update the editorial guidelines for diagnostic products for susceptibility tests and report back at next meeting

6Next meeting
Daniel Karlsson
  • Next meeting is on on 2018-08-20
  • As the LOINC project is on hold, we will shift to monthly Observables calls
 
7AOB
Daniel Karlsson
   

Meeting Files

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File testosterone_owl_el.owl 2018-Jul-11 by Daniel Karlsson
File testosterone_owl_dl.owl 2018-Jul-11 by Daniel Karlsson

Recording


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