Events, Conditions, Episodes Project Group meeting agenda 09-25-2017
Date
2017-08-28
Time: 20:00 UTC
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Invitees
- Bruce Goldberg
- Ed Cheetham
- Philip Brown
- David Sperzel
- Jim Case
- Rob Hausam
- Penni Hernandez
- Mary Gerard
- Phuong Skovgaard
- Robert McClure
- Robert Turnbull
Apologies
General Comments
- See agenda below
Item
Description
Owner
Item
Comments/Files
1
Welcome and role call
BGO, all
2
Allergy/hypersensitivity editorial guidelines
BGO
- Update on allergy/hypersensitivity model and allergy to x revision project
- Update on allergy/hypersensitivity model and allergy to x revision project
- Input from Allergy-hypersensitivity clinical reference group
- The term "pseudoallergy" is obsolete as discrete pathophysiologic mechanisms have been identified. Recommendation is to replace with non-allergic hypersensitivity which will align more closely with WAO/EAAAI nomencalture
|* Yongsheng Gao and Toni Morrison met 8/23/2017 to discuss how to prioritize content revision for Jan. 2018 release.
- The term "pseudoallergy" is obsolete as discrete pathophysiologic mechanisms have been identified. Recommendation is to replace with non-allergic hypersensitivity which will align more closely with WAO/EAAAI nomencalture
- Yongsheng Gao will produce draft document and will finalize with Bruce Goldberg and Toni Morrison
- Nonallergic hypersensitivity.pptx|
3
Arthritis syndromes
BGO
Certain arthritis conditions can be represented as a joint inflammation as well as a systemic/multisystem disorder.
4
Modeling fetal and maternal related concepts
PBR
Alternate model using occurrence role
5
Modeling of CVAs due to thrombosis/embolus - follow-up
BGO, PBR
- Proposed model was to use specific artery/vein thrombosis concepts as value of due to along with an associated morphology of 78195007
Occlusive thrombus (morphologic abnormality). Issue raised that occlusive thrombus (morphologic abnormality) as residing in role group 0 would refer to theCVA rather than the thrombosis. Suggested solution is to create specific occlusive artery/vein thrombosis concepts as the value of due to
- Revised model presented. Same parents inferred as original model. Question of need to revise model as it would require creating many new precoordinated classes
- Questions also arose as to the overloading of the morphology hierarchy with structures that increasingly specify a simple morphology by including an underlying cause such as Hemorrhagic infarct (morphologic abnormality)
- It was suggested that guidelines need to be developed for when to use a highly specific morphology vs a simple morphology with additional relationships in order to define certain concepts
- Question arose as to use cases for developing above guidelines
- Modeling consistency
- Queries/data aggregation
|* Stroke_Modelling.docx
|6
Sepsis/organ dysfunction syndrome
YGA, BGO
- There are 43 subconcepts under 238151006
Sepsis-associated organ dysfunction (disorder)
. They need to be reviewed and revised following the Editorial Guide on X with Y associations. Some specific issues need to be addressed:
- Modeling consistency
- Which pattern should this concept and its subconcepts belong to, e.g. due to vs. co-occurrent and due to?
- Should these be implemented as description changes of FSNs or inactivation of concepts?
- Should 238151006|Sepsis-associated organ dysfunction (disorder)| be subconcept of 91302008|Sepsis (disorder)|?
- Should 91302008|Sepsis (disorder)| is a subconcept of 238149007|Systemic inflammatory response syndrome (disorder)|?
- Should sepsis is a subconcept of 238147009|Organ dysfunction syndrome (disorder)|?
- Should 76571007|Septic shock (disorder)| is a subconcept of sepsis?|Ongoing discussion has raised the following points:
- Organ dysfunction can persist after infection resolves, therefore not necessarily co-occurrent and thus co-occurrent and due to modelling pattern may not be appropriate.
- Should sepsis be considered a kind of infectious disease? If so then another model would utilize pathological process infectious process to capture infectious disease as an additional parent.
- Is a pathological process of infectious process correct for sepsis or is dysregulated host response a better pathological process to define sepsis?|
7
AOB, adjourn
ALL
- Next meeting September 25, 2017 20:00 UTC
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