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Date
10/25/2016
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Discussion items
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1 | Call to order and role call | JCA |
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2 | Approval of 20160822 and 20160928 minutes | JCA |
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3 | Drug model content | TMO | Review of decisions coming out of the Drug Model discussion on Sunday.
Meaning of Product Clarification of the meaning of "Product" in SNOMED CT - Current definition from the Editorial Guide July 2016: "This hierarchy was introduced as a top-level hierarchy in order to clearly distinguish drug products (products) from their chemical constituents (substances). It contains concepts that represent the multiple levels of granularity required to support a variety of uses cases such as computerized provider order entry (CPOE), e-prescribing, decision support and formulary management. The levels of drug products represented in the International Release include Virtual Medicinal Product (VMP), Virtual Therapeutic Moiety (VTM), and Product Category.” Question: The prescribing use case was deemed out of scope at the initial drug model meeting in Copenhagen, April 2015. Do we need to revise this description in light of the current definition and the ongoing discussion? Question: Given the proposed draft drug model for extensions, is there a need for the creation of new semantic tags that differentiate between abstract, generic and trade products? Question: Are trade products in scope? Decision: No they are not. Policy decisions: a) The implicit meaning of existing “products” (e.g. aspirin) is “Product containing X". This aligns with the modeling as sufficiently defined using existential restrictions and ingredients. b) The FSNs for those concepts have been or will be revised to unambiguously represent that meaning. c) This editorial policy will be communicated to NRCs through the Drug Model Project. It is also decided that the pharmacy level use case is not supported, so the need for universal restrictions will be resolved by other means. Question: BGO had some questions about the impact of these decision on reactions to combined products. Currently this proposal does not address the issue that BGO needs to resolve. |
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4 | Assessment instrument responses | JCA | Policy on addition of assessment tool responses to the International edition. IHTSDO currently accepts "names" of assessment instruments and staging scales; however, there is nothing in the editorial guide that specifically addresses the responses to assessment instrument questions. As many of these are extremely context dependent, being tied specifically to the particular instrument, what should be the policy of IHTSDO to requests to add assessment instrument responses to the International release. Example: Requests to add responses to Tinetti balance assessment tool. Proposed general guidance:
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5 | ECE Update | BGO | Update on ongoing issues with ECE
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6 | Unilateral findings and procedures | JCA | Revisit of this issue following decision on laterality. From the discussion held in Uruguay:
In light of the approval of lateralized content into the International release, is there a compelling reason to keep these concepts (approx. 325). | |
7 | Bilateral morphologies | JCA | Related to the acceptance of lateralized content. There are a few morphologic abnormality concepts that contain the string "bilateral": Bilateral hypoplasia (morphologic abnormality) These have been rarely used, but can be replaced by individual relationship groups representing both sides. Recommendation: Inactivate these concepts as redundant. |
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8 | Requirement for matching description to FSN | JCA | Continuation of discussion around proposal to eliminate the requirement for a matching description to the FSN: 1. SCA will automatically create a matching description to the FSN. 2. Editors will determine whether the matching FSN provides a useful clinical description 3. Useful descriptions will be maintained in the terminology. 4. Those descriptions determined to be not useful will be removed. 5. SCA will present a warning for those concepts where the matching description has been removed, but will not prevent saving the concept. |
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9 | Disjunctive components Final agreement | JCA | Review of disjunctive representations:
Impact of this is that a number of LOINC terms become ineligible for addition to SNOMED CT. Also need naming conventions for FSNs that replace "special characters" with plain text. |
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10 | Organizational groupers | JCA | The IHTSDO Editorial Panel would like guidance on the creation of a policy regarding the addition of fully defined "grouper" concepts that are not clinically useful, but are used primarily for navigation of the hierarchy. For example "Procedure on vena cava" without any specifics as to the nature of the procedure. | |
11 | Action item review | EAG | ||
12 | Meeting schedule 2016-2017 | EAG | The EAG members have expressed a desire to meet more frequently. |
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