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Invitees:

Andrew Marchant Steven DainPatrick McCormick  Martin Hurrell Maria Hendrickson  Monica Harry  Ian Green Jane Millar  Jeremy Rogers Steven Dain Sander Mertens Ingrid MertensChristine Spisla Grant Forrest Charles Gutteridge Krista Lilly Monica Harry Jane Millar  Christopher Hansebout Victor Medina Cato Christian SpookCharles Gutteridge

Apologies: 


Present:

Anesthesia Clinical Reference Group

Time: Tuesday, May 28, 2024 19:00 - 20:00 UTC / 20:00 - 21:00 UK / 15:00 - 16:00 ET

https://snomed.zoom.us/j/81505368042?pwd=fKQFLTdoTXsseka6ZwIMXVnmbUJX2y.1

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+1 646 518 9805 (US Toll)
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ItemDescriptionOwnerNotes
1Introductions and Apologies

Andrew Marchant 


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Matters arising from the previous meeting notes

2024-04-16 Anesthesia CRG Face to Face Meeting

Andrew Marchant 


3SNOMED Update

Charles Gutteridge 



4Discussion Forum - induction of GA terms

Patrick McCormick 

Induction of General Anesthesia
  • discussed issues; will support a request to push the six inhalational anesthesia concepts under 241692007 |Inhalational induction (procedure)|

Anesthetic agents

  • General anesthetic (substance)
  • No "inhaled anesthetic" grouper
  • There is a "General intravenous anesthetic (substance)"
  • Per Monica, we do not want to add substance groupers as SNOMED is actively working on some substance initiatives
  • Group is open to improvements in the inhaled anesthesia procedure concepts
4Term discussion


405493003 | Inadequate equipment assessment (finding)

Steven Dain writes
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I am unclear on how to use this term. Note that it is a child of  127325009 | Procedure related finding (finding) |

The term "Inadequate equipment assessment" in my opinion is a procedure not a finding especially to be consistent with

226004006 | Medical equipment assessment (procedure) | which is a child of Evaluation Procedure (what is medical equipment?)  should there be a synonym of this Procedure Equipment assessment?

There is also 385874005 | Equipment safety assessment (procedure) | which is a child of 385869002 | Safety precautions assessment (procedure) |

Does it mean that one did an Equipment Adequacy check and found that the equipment is inadequate?  If so, we need a term "Adequate equipment assessment" (finding)

I would suggest

  1. we deprecate the term 405493003 | Inadequate equipment assessment (finding) | or change to "Inadequate equipment (finding)"

  2. add the synonym  Procedure Equipment assessment to  226004006 | Medical equipment assessment (procedure) | 

  3. create new finding "Equipment inadequate" not sure the appropriate parent

  4. create new finding "Equipment adequate"  not sure the appropriate parent

Thoughts?"


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Dates of next meeting

 Andrew Marchant 

Next meeting Tuesday July 23, 2024

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