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2021-06-16 16.00 UTC

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Objectives

  • Continue to elaborate the migration model for laboratory measurement procedures

Discussion items

ItemDescriptionTimeOwnerNotesAction
1Welcome
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2Conflicts of interest
  • None stated

3Discussion Phase 1 scope and template  developmentdataset for migration trial57 min

Going forward:

  • Document script and decisions made
  • Panels - identification, naming and implementation
  • Totals - identification of corresponding concepts
  • What are valuable groupers

Task-force to prepare for business meetings: James R. Campbell Sarah Harry  Penni Hernandez Rob Hausam Daniel Karlsson

2021-05-19:

To add DIRECT SITE or not: 

Agreement that a DIRECT SITE would not be added to the definition unless it is clearly stated in the FSN. Further, INHERES IN would generally take values from the Substance hierarchy.

To model INHERE_IN with substance or specimen:  JCase demurred after substantial discussion and we agreed to use substance...

Being able to use the SNOMED CT hierarchy to organize observables (lab as deployed in Nebraska and the tech preview or "non-lab" as deployed in SNOMED CT Evaluation procedure and Observables hierarchies) for analytics, querying, etc. is the driving use case.  Discussion on structured FSN for transferred procedures did not reach conclusion.

WorkPlan: continue with process evaluation of Serum procedures:

1) detailed review of 800+ concepts in set with removal of Orderables

2) editorial review of template based modelling of set for URU verification

3) Prepare more in-depth analysis for meeting in two weeks. 

2021-06-02:

Issue with primitive or otherwise insufficiently modeled concepts. Suggestion of two streamsof work:

  1. A manual stream to manually model concepts from the top X most frequently used list
  2. While going through the list, identify patterns where templates can be applied

2021-06-16:

Work of identifying patterns in the most-frequent list. See e2o_v4.owl attached.

  • Presentation of procedure review and semantic analysis of UK evaluation procedures in use  
  • Discussion of template development for phase 1 deployment testing (see bolded deliverables in DISCUSSION slide set attached)
    • For unpopulated HAS_SPECIMEN, 256906008 | Blood material (substance) | is a likely candidate (unless otherwise stated)
    • "Cell counts" - model as INHERES_IN cell structure and use numeric concentration; remove "Lymphocyte count" and similar ambiguous concepts as out of scope
    • Free and Total substances - check with Toni Morrison on organization of Substance hierarchy
    • Use DIRECT_SITE sparingly but use cases like "Blood spot TSH" are OK 
    • In general use 118594004 | Quantity concentration (property) (qualifier value) | for "measurement of..."
    • Quantitative?
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4Next meeting 2 min2021-06-30 14.00 UTC - time moved!



5AOB1 min


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