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02/17/2017
1900-2100 UTC
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Meeting minutes
EAG Minutes Jan 20, 2017
Objectives
- Obtain consensus on agenda items
Discussion items
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1 | Call to order and role call | JCA | Paul Amos communicated that he would not be able to make the call. |
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2 | Conflicts of interest | JCA | None. | |
3 | Approval of minutes from 01/20/2017 | JCA | As of the start of the meeting quorum did not exist. Could not approve. |
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4 | Drug Model deliverable review | TMO | Received 51 comments from six countries on the initial draft of the editorial guidelines for modeling and terming drugs. All issues identified were resolved or deferred. Second iteration of guidelines released in early March.
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5 | Substance redesign document review | JCA/TMO | Substance disposition proposal (see attached document) Comments from EAG regarding the proposal were sought. BGO had a question about the use of the HAS DISPOSITION relationship; where would it be used? JCA stated it would be solely used for substances. WRT to substances associated with allergens, how would these be used when the substance had a disposition other than allergen. A substance has a disposition, whether it is being used in another context or not. Disposition is a defining attribute for substances. |
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6 | Guidance for creation of new anatomy concepts | JCA | Issue: In some cases, the representation of FINDING SITE at the proper level of granularity requires multiple body structures. E.g.: The proposal under consideration is: "If two body structures are needed to fully define the finding site for a condition, then a combined anatomic structure shall be created to represent that body structure." For example: A new body structure "Bone structure of distal phalanx of great toe (body structure)" would be created to support the modeling of the concept above. Discussion: PAM supported this approach by email. BGO supports this change as well. YGA was asked about his support and he also supported the new guidance. |
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7 | Editorial guidance on role grouping | JCA | Create a table of mandatory grouping of relationships. Rationale – needed for template based authoring, provides internal consistency of model patterns, allows for batch editing due to consistency. See initial review from Daniel Karlsson and Yongshen Gao The grouping patterns are currently being defined in the groups of templates, but there has been no general guidance for how relationships should/must be grouped. This would define mandatory grouping as well as addressing exceptions to grouping in particular subhierarchies. These would provide guidance for the templates being created. This is project that is currently not resourced, but will be put on the list of needed edits for the revision of the editorial guide. |
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8 | "X in remission" | JCA | Existing tracker: "In remission" disorders Hold over item from initial meeting in Uruguay. Has been brought up again with a large number of requests for addition of "X in remission" concepts. Existing Inception document: Modeling "disease in remission" Document definition: "The period in the course of a disease/condition during which there is temporary lessening or abatement of signs and/or symptoms of the disease." Based on historical view of "Disease in remission" there are some assumptions:
Prior proposals:
One related issue is the current overlap of concepts under "Courses" and "Disease phases". Challenge is that disease phases differ with the "type" of disease.
Question: Pros and cons of creating type specific phases? The result of this discussion should be extensible to other patterns of "Disease in X" (e.g. latent disease, relapse, etc.) for which there are several CRS requests outstanding. Related issue: IHTSDO-407 Frequencies and Courses Discussion:BGO reviewed the document and asked about the relationship of remission to "disposition". He sees overlap between those notions. Favors making disease in remission as a subtype of the disease. Also favored a separate "disease in remission" hierarchy (primitive parent). Needs additional discussion in London |
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9 | Extension of range of SPECIMEN SUBSTANCE to physical object | JCA | Initially discussed in Uruguay, postponed to future meeting Existing tracker item: IHTSDO-604 Extend the range of "Specimen substance" Use cases:
Earlier discussion points:
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10 | ECE Update | BGO | Update on ongoing issues with ECE
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11 | Aligning SNOMED CT with clinical use cases | KCA/JCA | Carried over from past meetings: High level discussion on whether SNOMED CT is appropriately organized to support the highly variable granularity of content the are influenced by current EHR applications (i.e. single code recording of pre-coordinated content) and newer initiatives that are focused on capturing more structured data (e.g. CIMI, FHIR) | |
12 | Next meeting | EAG |