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Date

2020-02- 

GoToMeeting Details

Topic: SNOMED EAG Conference Call
Time: Sep 25, 2019 10:00 AM Pacific Time (US and Canada)

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Meeting ID: 745 439 388

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Meeting Files:


Meeting minutes:

The call recording is located here.

The edited transcript is located here.

Objectives

  • Obtain consensus on agenda items

Discussion items

ItemDescriptionOwnerNotesAction
1Call to order and role call

Start recording!

 

2Conflicts of interestNone. 
3

Approval of minutes from April 2019 Business meeting

Agenda changes

Edited transcript is located hereRequest to let Daniel Karlsson go first in the agenda.


  •   Approval of minutes
  •  Agenda change approved
4Diet findings vs. Diet regimes

A proposal to replace many of the diet finding terms (e.g. high fat diet) with regime/therapy concepts has run into an obstacle with the current usage within the UKTC where these terms originated. In consultation with the UKTC, it has been proposed that we:

  • continue with the addition of valid diet regimes (current diet findings are being reviewed for validity
  • inactivate and replace diet findings with more precise terming (e.g. Follows X diet regime (finding)) to allow for graceful evolution and tracability

5Additional description typesJim CaseAs discussed in KL. Need a list of proposed description types to send to tech services for implementation. Guidance on use will need to be developed.


67ECE UpdateBruce Goldberg

7Concept inactivation project groupPaul Amos

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Clinical core content identificationJim Case

At the April London business meeting, it was determined that an approach to the identification of the recommended content of the proposed clinical core be determined by a set of both inclusion and exclusion criteria.

Agreed inclusion criteria:

  • global applicability
  • contextless
  • clinically oriented (including content from foundation hierarchies needed to define concepts)
  • supported by a clinical use case
  • used to align with other terminology standards (e.g. ICD)

Exclusion criteria include:

  • administrative, operational or status concepts
  • situations with explicit context
  • combined disorders
  • Implicit or explicit negations/absence
  • Inverse concepts (cooperative vs uncooperative)
  • Pre-coordination of laterality
  • Pre-coordination of severity
  • Specific top-level hierarchies - all except Pharmaceutical/biological product and Substance are currently passively maintained
    • Environment or geographical location (environment / location)
    • Organism (organism)
    • Pharmaceutical / biologic product (product)
    • Physical force (physical force)
    • Physical object (physical object)
    • Record artifact (record artifact)
    • Social context (social concept)
    • Staging and scales (staging scale)
    • Substance (substance)

Discussion 2019-08-28: Additional high level exclusion criteria

  • Need to specifically define what is meant by "clinically-oriented" - again, might be easier to exclude what is not clinically oriented. Focus should relate directly to the "life phase" of the patient or procedures that address the "life-phase" of the patient.
  • How much of the foundation should be actively maintained as part of the clinical core?
  • How much of the international release is empirically defined?
  • Is the potential membership of the "problem list" candidates for the clinical core?
  • Suggested that we focus on those concepts that can have full DL definitions, consistent with a single ontological view
Discussion 2019-09-25: Tabled for lack of time. Will be discussed in KL





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